
Gabapentine (Neurontin) & Pregabaline (Lyrica)Iemand ervaring mee?
#41
Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:43 PM
Mr.Toasted- wouldnt it be cool if one day you found out you were actually someone elses imagination.
#42
Posted 18 October 2009 - 06:03 PM

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#43
Posted 18 October 2009 - 06:11 PM

Maar ik vind het tegenwoordig vooral fijn om beide te combineren, dan weet ik in ieder geval dat ik de beste effecten vanuit beide versterk

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#44
Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:16 PM
So i ordered lyrica from the net 2 weeks ago i really wanted to try it because of all the positive reports on it
11.30 took 150mg i wasnt sure what dose to take so i ended looking on bluelight and decided to take some more
12.15 took 450mg more, it were 50mg caps so i need to find a new way to take this stuff lol
around an hour later i started to feel the lyrica, i kinda felt drunk and i couldnt walk straight but it did feel better then alcohol wich does feel very dirty, i also felt very tired so i went to bed
nodding... and seeing all kinds of colors that are flashing by (not really colors but you notice something flashing)
i fell asleep and woke up at 5.10
still walking like a drunk
20.09 back home from the doctor (needed a script for work) and feeling pretty good, i like this better then the first part as it made me feel very tired
I dont think this stuff feels like a combo of G and X, but it has some properties of G and alcohol, i'm not sure if i could take this drug on a rave, but i will do some experimenting
#45
Posted 31 January 2010 - 01:51 PM
Neurontin + 2C-I is a great combo, for some reason, it changes the 2C-I body feeling to a euphoric "E" like feeling. When I found this out I let some friends try it, and they said they felt like they were "rolling" more than tripping. A 2C-I "newbie", I gave him just 10mg 2c-i and one 400 capsule of neurontin, but told him the neurontin might give a calming effect, didnt mention the euphoria. Later on he blurted out "I feel like i'm rolling not really tripping". I posted about this before on the board but I dont think anyone took it seriously (or maybe its just most people don't want to get neurontin just to try the mix). I thought it was just me at first until I gave it to many people (who were mostly experienced at least somewhat with MDMA, some "very" experienced/had used a "LOT" often), one of my "pop E like its candy" type friends took a few capsules of Neurontin with 20mg 2C-I and while under the influence of this said "wow, i'm not sure if ecstasy is better than this or not, wow". 100% of the people I gave the combo to (some I told what to expect, some not) said it felt more like an "ecstasy" high than anything else, or the people with no MDMA/similar experience just said they felt really great or whatever, not being able to compare it to MDMA all they could say was they liked it/felt good (and "can i have some more of those neurontins").
http://www.bluelight...p/t-110403.html
Nu staat voor mij de combi van lyrica en 2c-i ineens hoog op de lijst.
Iemand hier ervaring met het combineren van gabapentine of pregabaline met 2c-x?
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#46
Posted 31 January 2010 - 01:59 PM
Dat doen benzo's ook en dan blijft er ook enkel een euforische high over (ik heb het hier over combo 17 mg 2C-I met 2 mg lorazepam)
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#47
Posted 31 January 2010 - 02:24 PM
As for the euphoria, it seems not really "increased", but like the "buzz" actually changes to a new, better e-like buzz. You still get the same visuals and all, but the body buzz seems to change into something much different, feels like mdma, but slow coming up, slow gradual "come down". There's more than a body buzz, there's the mental effects where you are super nice and well a lot like MDMA. I noticed unfortulately a back massage or touch didnt seem to be increased, but, its still good
I never noticed any hangover ever - but I think there might be a tolerance to this effect, not necessarily a tolerance to 2c-i but to neurontin (and maybe if serotonin is depleted).
Toch het proberen waard denk ik.
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#48
Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:06 PM
Nu is Gababutin minder actief dan Gabapentin, 420 nM tegenover 120 nM op de α2δ subunit VDCC (voltage-dependent calcium channel), maar een analogon van Gababutin is weer rete actief 22 nM, dezev zal waarschijnlijk wel nooit op de markt komen, maar toch tof dat er nog volop research wordt gedaan naar deze gaba-analoga, want het blijven fijne stofjes.

Even wat beeld ondersteuning:

De onderste verbinding is de meest actieve uit dat artikel..
Bioorganic & Medicinal Chemistry Letters 20 (2010) 461–464
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#49
Posted 05 April 2010 - 05:27 PM
En voelt de ontspanning hetzelfde als bij benzo's maar zonder de slaapgevoelens/duizeligheid/"dronkenheid"?
#50
Posted 05 April 2010 - 06:35 PM
Benzodiazepines hebben heel sterk een centrale werking terwijl Gabapentine vooral een lichamelijke werking heeft.
En of de 'ontspanning' gelijk voelt, dat is denk ik heel subjectief. Ik vind in ieder geval van niet, vooral de slaperigheid mist bij mij en Gabapentine voelt meer donken aan (lichamelijk)
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#51
Posted 05 April 2010 - 08:02 PM
Gabapentine voelt meer donken aan (lichamelijk).
Gezien de lage kans op overdosing en lage toxiciteit zou ik dan bijna zeggen dat het een ideale vervanger voor alcohol is.
Geen ervaring mee, en houd ook niet zo van alcohol, maar in een maatschappij waar velen verzot op alcohol zijn vraag ik me af of dit geen fantastisch recreatief middel is...?
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