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#1 mind



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Posted 22 December 2004 - 12:54 PM

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A whole new kind of K ration

December 3, 2004

A whole new kind of K ration: If it's good enough for ravers, it's good enough for U.S. troops. That's the thinking, apparently, behind the Army's decision to test the animal tranquilizer ketamine as a way to soothe injured soldiers.

The drug -- known in clubs as Special K -- has been reducing partygoers to gurgling blobs for more than a decade. This year, the Army has been running final, phase III Food and Drug Administration trials on a quarter-dose nasal inhaler of ketamine to see if it can substitute for morphine.

"With morphine, the soldier's just gorfed, he can't do anything," said Col. Bob Vandre, of the Army's Medical Research and Materiel Command. "With this, he can drive his truck, or shoot his gun."

Vandre said he knew full well that ketamine "had been snorted by people at rave parties" and that "it makes you kind of weird, sort of like acid."
However, he promised, the military's dose of ketamine would not have the same effects.
"It doesn't make you weird," Vandre said. "But it does reduce pain."

The ketamine snort is one of several novel treatments Vandre was showing to people at the conference. Further up the treatment-development pipeline is a temporary blood replacement. The magic ingredient comes in a tiny bottle, which is filled with small bubbles just 2 microns across. The bubbles in this dodecafluoropentane emulsion swell to double size when they get in the lungs. Once they flow to the rest of the body, the bubbles distribute oxygen more efficiently than normal red blood cells, Vandre said. Forty cubic centimeters -- just 8 teaspoons -- would be as good at delivering oxygen as all of the blood flowing inside a person.

"We've taken mice, drained out all of their blood, and replaced it with a saline solution and this," Vandre said. "They walk around like nothing's happened."
At least for a half hour or so. That's when the bubbles begin to lose their fizz, and the mouse needs its blood back.

THERE'S MORE, DUDE: Back in '64, the Army decided it'd be a good idea to give 60 of its soldiers inhalable LSD. Here is what they found.

AND MORE: "Ketamine is already FDA approved in humans as an anesthetic drug and has been for years," reader 5911674 notes over on the Defense Tech forum. That's right: in kids, "K" has been okayed for, among other things, "induction of general anesthesia" and "sedation in the intensive care unit." 5911674 is also right that I should've mentioned this before. Good catch.


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#2 dreamer



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Posted 22 December 2004 - 01:09 PM

"With this, he can drive his truck, or shoot his gun."

hmm, ik weet niet of dit nou zo'n heel erg goed id is ... ik kan me voorstellen dat enkele troopers met een suply K op als een stelletje KamiKaze-idioten gaan rondboeken daar in Irak ;) ...

... hmmm, come to think of it, this IS a good idea :zwaai:

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Posted 22 December 2004 - 05:50 PM

"it makes you kind of weird, sort of like acid."

--> klopt toch niet ?
'Den uitvreter, dien je in je bed vond liggen met zijn vuile schoenen, als je 's avonds laat thuis kwam. Den uitvreter, die je sigaren oprookte, en van je tabak stopte en je steenkolen verstookte en je kasten nakeek en geld van je leende en je schoenen opdroeg en een jas van je aantrok als-i in den regen naar huis moest. Den uitvreter, die altijd wat liet halen op den naam van een ander; die als een vorst jenever zat te drinken op 't terras 'Hollandais' voor de centen van de lui; die parapluies leende en nooit terugbracht; die een barst stookte in de tweedehandsch kachel van Bavink; die dubbele boorden droeg van zijn broer en de boeken uitleende van Appi, en buitenlansche reizen maakte als-i z'n ouwe heer weer had afgezet, en pakken droeg, die hij nooit betaalde.'

Mr.Toasted- wouldnt it be cool if one day you found out you were actually someone elses imagination.

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Posted 22 December 2004 - 06:47 PM

nee klopt niet maarja het zijn amerikanen en in vietnam hebben ze keta al gebruikt op t slagveld, dus waarom nu ineens testen doen om te zien of het daarvoor geschikt is

Dit is dope!

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